Comments on: Thesis 2.0 & The State of Premium Frameworks https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/ A hub for advanced WordPress users, developers & savvy business owners. Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:04:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Durai Anna https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/#comment-19569 Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:58:13 +0000 https://wpshout.com/?p=4385#comment-19569 You guys are rocking with WordPress , the moment i moved to WP from BLogger , i felt like i wasted or missed experience with WordPress for almost 3 years.

i was with BLogger for nearly three and a half years, just 4 months now i’m on WordPress.

it really inspires young students like me, i hope one day i’ll make my contribution to the wordpress community as a Web Developer 🙂

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By: Amelia Warren https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/#comment-19568 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:35:50 +0000 https://wpshout.com/?p=4385#comment-19568 I feel somewhat sorry for Chris Pearson. If his twitter feed is anything to go by, he hates his customers, and sees nothing but problems with the world. Every single tweet of his is negative.

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By: Ravi https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/#comment-19567 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:17:11 +0000 https://wpshout.com/?p=4385#comment-19567 After WooThemes menu feature that got into WP core, what has been the next ground breaking innovation in WP theme market?

Seems like theme market is innovating but it may be doing the right thing focusing on design, leaving functionality to plugins.

Most major theme shops like StudioPress, WooThemes Elegant Themes, iThemes have a plugin section now. Innovation happens but in plugins. This helps to keep the theme lean while allowing the plugins to be used in any theme.

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By: Jean Galea https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/#comment-19566 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:07:59 +0000 https://wpshout.com/?p=4385#comment-19566 Hey Alex, Jean from WP Mayor here. Came across this article and I have to say that I found the comments from the Thesis guys really apalling. Being a regular follower of your blog, I know what stuff you’re made of and using your age as one of the main criteria for dismissing your post is really strange.

Thesis might have the best marketing guys in the industry, but they desperately need someone to handle their PR if they want to avoid such embarassing outings.

Keep up the good work Alex, you’re an inspiration for all of us in the WordPress community.

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By: Matt https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/#comment-19565 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:18:48 +0000 https://wpshout.com/?p=4385#comment-19565 Yes, I think you’re absolutely spot-on here. I am a Thesis customer and have since kicked myself repeatedly after seeing almost zero communication from DIYThemes (Thesis 2 was delayed and delayed and delayed for over a year without any communication as to what was going on) and a lack of maturity and professionalism across the board. Chris apparently does not take criticism well and the marketing from Derek comes across as a whole lot of smarm. I want respect, professionalism, maturity, and communication from the businesses I work with and am willing to pay for it. Unfortunately, DIYThemes has failed on all fronts.

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By: Craig Grella https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/#comment-19564 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:24:43 +0000 https://wpshout.com/?p=4385#comment-19564 I’m a big proponent of most of these theme frameworks, and at one time have developed on them all.

Sure, some of the updates aren’t groundbreaking by any means – the idea of a drag and drop template editor has been around for some time and they each have a similar interface. I still prefer it over the headway interface, which can be confusing for newbies too who don’t understand they need to use custom css to create overlapping elements or nested divs, because the visual editor certainly doesnt imply that.

Right now I’m not sure Thesis2 is ready for newbies. I couldnt imagine trying to explain its editing usage to a client.

But as a developer, I can appreciate its usefulness and will admit it has saved me some time in the design process.The new hook system makes adding custom code very easy, and the skin organization makes creating and packaging a child theme for moving and cloning very easy.

I think one of the reasons DIY can “get away” with lack of documentation and a poor release is the fact that their support group is in another class compared to the other frameworks. Questions get answered there in a matter of minutes as opposed to days (or never) on some of the other framework support sites.

The only problem with all these frameworks is – they’re all relatively costly for newbies, and it’s hard to really get a sense of how they work without first paying for it.

Your article is a good one though, and I think it helps for people to think critically about these frameworks.

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By: Chris Ames https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/#comment-19563 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:29:12 +0000 https://wpshout.com/?p=4385#comment-19563 The authors maturity and professionalism is a stark contrast to Pearson and his peers. In fact, the author’s approach amplifies how mind-bogglingly juvenile the DIY crowd’s own thought-processes are.

It’s quite the contrast, and quite the irony. Keep blogging Alex. You’re a better man.

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By: Casey Dennison https://wpshout.com/the-state-of-premium-frameworks/#comment-19562 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:46:31 +0000 https://wpshout.com/?p=4385#comment-19562 Wow… I had no idea Derek of socialtriggers.com worked for Thesis.

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